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08-23-2007, 11:27 AM
Ok i see that we dont have a thread here or a sticky thread(permanant) about folks dyno results. I think it's helpful to others to compare how well there bike did to other nomads with the same year, etc. Below is a pic of my dyno results from about two months ago.

I have the V&H Classic Baggers II and the BAK (Barons air Kit) and a PCIII installed and here is what I got out of it. My bike runs pretty darn good now http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif. I may have to do some very very minor tweaking down the road but so far so good. What are your Dyno results and post them here if you can. Take care and rise safe all.

Chuck

http://inlinethumb13.webshots.com/10508/2045408820075083331S600x600Q85.jpg
socwkbiker
08-23-2007, 11:50 AM
This may sound ignorant, but can you explain this a little for those of us who have not had this done to our bikes?
blowndodge
08-23-2007, 12:58 PM
SWB your right on track! It does sound very ignorant!!! hahaha
Todd
08-23-2007, 01:03 PM
My dyno results...

First is with the power commander...second is without http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb50/toddf1_2007/210045036_5134cc800d_m.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb50/toddf1_2007/dino.gif

Actually, I have not added anything..but plan too as soon as I can figure a way to justify it....I am sure it with make the V&H baggers sound better and give it a little more umphhhh!
socwkbiker
08-23-2007, 01:13 PM
Funny guy...you got jokes... http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif I just don't have a really good comeback yet. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif



SWB your right on track! It does sound very ignorant!!! hahaha
socwkbiker
08-23-2007, 01:14 PM
Todd, that's what I thought, just wanted to be sure.
08-23-2007, 01:32 PM
This may sound ignorant, but can you explain this a little for those of us who have not had this done to our bikes?

Hey not even a problem. The Blue line is what my base reading was when they first hook it up and started the dyno process. the second line (Red) is what they got it too and set it at and as you can see I gained in HP and torque by doing this dyno. My bike has way more throttle response and now she rides like she is on rails (Fast). Base was 65.58HP, Now I have 68.86HP and my torque rating was 85.27 now I have 88.11 so I did increase it by a little bit but it's enough to really feel the difference
Now the lower chart shows my fuel/air mixture ratio this is very important. Because you can work with this to decide If you dont care about gas milage and all you want is power!!! You can set it up to be real fast and not so good at miles per gallon (30 and under) or you can do what I did and have it setup to have the power but give me some ok miles per gallon (Im currently at 35-37 MPG hwy) Now the trick is to get there A/F red line to be as straight as possiable and as you can see they pretty much got me there. The stright line says you have a perfect air/fuel ratio. If you get lines that look like heart arithmia's then thats not good...... My buddy next door has a stock 07 nomad and he gets so pissed when we ride becasue he says to me when we are out riding that he will have his bike pegged at full throttle and I'm still pulling away from him at about 85-90% my throttle. He rode my bike the other day and all he said to his wife when he got back was i have to have those mods Chucks has becasue he bike is nothing like my nomad in power. So I hope that helps you out. If anyone has any questions please feel free and ask! ;)
socwkbiker
08-23-2007, 02:22 PM
Thank you VC. I really appreciate that explanation and this confirms that I will be buying the PC III and later a hypercharger.

As for you BD... http://s2.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif
08-23-2007, 02:26 PM
Your welcome Sockbiker. Anything else about this please ask.
blowndodge
08-23-2007, 02:29 PM
Thank you VC. I really appreciate that explanation and this confirms that I will be buying the PC III and later a hypercharger.

As for you BD... http://s2.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif

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ponch
08-23-2007, 10:59 PM
If your bike is stock, don't bother as it's meaningless to know how much power it makes. Ride it, maintain it, and have fun. If you modify the exhaust and air filter, then it usually helps to get some dyno time to fine tune the ECM spoofer.



This may sound ignorant, but can you explain this a little for those of us who have not had this done to our bikes?
08-23-2007, 11:00 PM
I'm lost again...........
blowndodge
08-23-2007, 11:45 PM
Geeeee, isn't that a surprise!!!!!!!!! LOL maybe you need another nap?
08-23-2007, 11:48 PM
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socwkbiker
08-24-2007, 08:47 AM
Ok BD, you're so damn smart, you explain what an ECM spoofer is and why it needs to be fine tuned. Class, just BD, no one else...for now.
socwkbiker
08-24-2007, 12:35 PM
Does anyone have a link to easy to read and understand installation instructions for a PC III?
08-24-2007, 01:01 PM
Yup I sure do. http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gif
Just know there is somethings in there you dont have to do. It took my like an hour + to install mine and thats becasue i never did one on a 1600 nomad and plus it was the first time pulling my tank. Now it wouldnt take more than 30 mintues tops. This PC for our bikes is one of the easit to install from Dynojet. Let me know what else I can do to help.
Link below it's a pdf file!
http://www.powercommander.com/downloads/220/install/411/eng220-411.pdf
08-24-2007, 01:21 PM
It's gonna have to be pretty easy.................... for me to understand!!! lol

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08-24-2007, 01:36 PM
It's gonna have to be pretty easy.................... for me to understand!!! lol

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ROFLOL trust me if i can do so can you LOL
08-24-2007, 01:46 PM
I really don't think I'll be able to figure out how to use it on my '99 carbed model...... :'(
08-24-2007, 03:52 PM
I really don't think I'll be able to figure out how to use it on my '99 carbed model...... :'(

Yeah would be tuff to use on a carbed bike ROFLOLOLOLOLOL :) :)
08-24-2007, 04:06 PM
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blowndodge
08-24-2007, 04:59 PM
Shucks you should have kept quiet! All Thumbs (Nico) would have tried to do it anyway!!! LOLOLO
l
08-24-2007, 05:01 PM
I know I can make it work..... gimme a hammer.... :-/
dogdoc
08-26-2007, 09:30 AM
Chuck: If you had V&H pipes, hypercharger air cleaner and PClll, would it be enough to just download the set map for the nomad? or I know if you want top power you have to do the dyno right? here they charge like $300+ to dyno it and it takes most of the day the guy said. Somebody else on here said and a new rear tire also? Any insight would be helpfull. Did it correct all the popping on decleration?

Doc
08-26-2007, 10:17 AM
Chuck: If you had V&H pipes, hypercharger air cleaner and PClll, would it be enough to just download the set map for the nomad? or I know if you want top power you have to do the dyno right? here they charge like $300+ to dyno it and it takes most of the day the guy said. Somebody else on here said and a new rear tire also? Any insight would be helpfull. Did it correct all the popping on declaration?

Doc

Hey Doc, To answer your questions yes it would be enough to Download a map from dynojet for the nomad with all the extra mods you mentioned. BUT there maps seem to run very rich. If you go and do all that to your bike I have my map from when i got my dyno'd and I think I have another nomad dyno map from a friend back in seattle who has an 06 like me. I can e-mail them to ya or put them on disc and mail them to ya. The reason they say it takes all day is because it depends on how close your map is to being good before they dyno your bike. I had a pretty good map on mine done by gervasi' in Everett, Wa just using a gas analyzer and it took them maybe an hour to an hour and half at most. No you wont need a new tire after a basic dyno. Where do these urban legends come from ROFLOLOLOL.

Also once i had my bike mapped right I have NOT HAD ONE POP on my bike since getting it done. Not one!!!!! Does not matter what gear I'm in the bike never pops on deceleration. Hope this helps...
dogdoc
08-26-2007, 02:52 PM
Thanks for the info VC.

Doc
08-26-2007, 06:35 PM
Not even a problem Doc...
socwkbiker
08-27-2007, 10:25 AM
Thanks for all the info VC. I'll be picking up my PC III today and hopefully installing it this weekend.
08-27-2007, 10:38 AM
Soc very cool. Let me know if you have any issues with it. My install looks factory becasue I took the time to zip tie the wires to the back bone wireharness on the bike so its a good fit. Let me know what you think of it once you get it installed. Again if you need any help let me know and i can shoot you my cell #
socwkbiker
09-17-2007, 07:34 PM
Ok, I had the PCM III installed with my V&H baggers and had and initial Dyno run today. Unfortunately they didn't have a printer, so I couldn't get the written results. My max HP was 50.8 and my max torque was 80.4. Remember, I'm going by memory. It ran nearly perfect on air/fuel ratio without custom mapping.

I've decided that I will put in a BAK soon since I'm looking for that added HP. Since I don't know what anyone else has in terms of stats, let me know where mine stand. thanks
scion0
09-17-2007, 09:16 PM
Ok, I had the PCM III installed with my V&H baggers and had and initial Dyno run today. Unfortunately they didn't have a printer, so I couldn't get the written results. My max HP was 50.8 and my max torque was 80.4. Remember, I'm going by memory. It ran nearly perfect on air/fuel ratio without custom mapping.

I've decided that I will put in a BAK soon since I'm looking for that added HP. Since I don't know what anyone else has in terms of stats, let me know where mine stand. thanks


Good deal, but I thought with the only the pipes installed, a PCM III was not needed (although I guess it can't hurt [except in the wallet]). I'd be interested to know what the stock HP and such is but heard that a Dyno test was a couple of hundred bucks.
09-18-2007, 10:40 AM
Soc when you add the BAk watch your bike wake up big time. It sounds as if your alittle shy on HP. If you look at what I started with and what I have now you can clearly see a difference in my stock and your stock HP and after dyno HP. I'm sure that you all have notice that your throttle response is much better now as well.


Ok, I had the PCM III installed with my V&H baggers and had and initial Dyno run today. Unfortunately they didn't have a printer, so I couldn't get the written results. My max HP was 50.8 and my max torque was 80.4. Remember, I'm going by memory. It ran nearly perfect on air/fuel ratio without custom mapping.

I've decided that I will put in a BAK soon since I'm looking for that added HP. Since I don't know what anyone else has in terms of stats, let me know where mine stand. thanks
scion0
09-18-2007, 11:30 AM
[quote:9prjvgxm]It's gonna have to be pretty easy.................... for me to understand!!! lol

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ROFLOL trust me if i can do so can you LOL[/quote:9prjvgxm]

Remember now, Nico is a bone guy and likes to push, pop, and snap things.... so if there is a lot of that going on then he is in... (Just messin with the man Sue, http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif be nice).
socwkbiker
09-18-2007, 03:09 PM
That's what I thought VC, that's why I've abandoned the idea of a hypercharger and will go with a BAK. Any suggestions on where to get one?

Scion, it only cost me $40 to do the baseline test. The tech did 5 pulls and gave me a readout. Remember, this is without custom mapping. When I get the BAK, then I will have to do a custom map and that costs a couple hundred.


Soc when you add the BAk watch your bike wake up big time. It sounds as if your alittle shy on HP. If you look at what I started with and what I have now you can clearly see a difference in my stock and your stock HP and after dyno HP. I'm sure that you all have notice that your throttle response is much better now as well.


[quote:krx5ymr7]Ok, I had the PCM III installed with my V&H baggers and had and initial Dyno run today. Unfortunately they didn't have a printer, so I couldn't get the written results. My max HP was 50.8 and my max torque was 80.4. Remember, I'm going by memory. It ran nearly perfect on air/fuel ratio without custom mapping.

I've decided that I will put in a BAK soon since I'm looking for that added HP. Since I don't know what anyone else has in terms of stats, let me know where mine stand. thanks[/quote:krx5ymr7]
scion0
09-18-2007, 04:11 PM
SWB said "Scion, it only cost me $40 to do the baseline test. The tech did 5 pulls and gave me a readout. Remember, this is without custom mapping. When I get the BAK, then I will have to do a custom map and that costs a couple hundred."

Ah... that is not bad... for some reason I was thinking any time on the Dyno was pricey. Thanks for the info.