Oil change

Ok... been 3500 miles since I bought the Nomad. Time for an oil change. I went out and looked and it has a simple spin on oil filter..... I thought these were all replaced with the cannister style with the nut on the front (tht's what the sevice manual I bought from Kawasaki shows)...... remember it's an early '99(98) with the oil level sight glass way down under... (no pun Tex)..... does this indicate in any way that I still might have that plastic gear?? Is there a way to tell..... and if I'm not having any problems shoud I just replace the spin on filter with what's on there????


Remember this is Nico.... MachoDC that has the shop do everthing up untill now!! KawaNOW!!!


I NEED ANSWERS AND TO BE SMITED DAMMIT!!!!

[blowndodge]

I believe you have the plastic gear. Its easy to tell you have the plastic gear by being in the middle of absolutely nowhere and you'll be broken down, thats how you will know! My 2006 has a spin on filter.

[spork]

My previous 2000 Classic had the spin on as well as my 1996 750.

[trip]

I'm with blowndodge on this one Nico....According to the Kawanow spec sheet, http://www.kawanow.org/specs.htm , you do have the plastic gear. Unless it's been replaced sometime before. Also, I would replace your oil filter with the same type spin-0n filter. Just my 2CW.

Trip

[spork]

IIRC-

No question on the POG. That wasn't changed until 2000. The 1999 Drifter was the only '99 to get the SOG.

[jeffm]

If you call kaw give them the vin they know if it has been replaced by them. Thats what i did when i had mine & as far as they knew it was still plastic.

Ok... thanks guys... so I'll stick with the spin on oil filter.... and no way to tell if the POG has been replaced except as BD so eloquenlty stated about being in the middle of nowhere and breaking down.... http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif


Jeff.... I will check with Kawi..... that obviously wasn't a recall item I suppose......

Anyone know part number for the spin on oil filter?

[tex]

Genuine Kawasaki part number 16097-1068 Have looked at buykasaki.com they have full parts lists for all kawasakis.... unfortunately only the US models but it's real helpful for check accesories etc

Thanks tex.... I noticed there is a 16097-1068 & -1058....

GH....you the man.

[blowndodge]

That the one I have in my 2006 Wally's 7317

Cool...... that is the spin-on I shall get then!!! If GH & BD agree........ how could I go wrong?

[blowndodge]

You just answered your own question!!!!!!!!!!

I talk to myself quite often thank you. :)

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[socwkbiker]

Like to spin her on something... http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif did I say that in my outside voice?

[vulcanvixen]

Buxom blond babe aside.......I WANT THE BIKE!!! OOOOH BABY!!

Uh.. listen junior memeber......











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[socwkbiker]

Tell 'em Nico. We're behind you all the way...way behind you.

SWB... I love ya brother.... but I gotta tell ya.... I get a little nervous with YOU behind me!!

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[socwkbiker]

5'10, 280# barrelin' up on ya bro. Be afraid...be very afraid... http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[Todd]

OH SH*T....THAT DID IT......I HAVE OFFICIALLY LOST IT.....I AM SITTING HERE LAFFIN' MY A*S OFF AT A MESSAGE BOARD

I know......... I've seen you in action!! Now just mellow out big guy!!
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<marquee>CONGRATS TODD!!!! YOU HAVE NOW OFFICIALLY LOST IT!!</marquee>

[socwkbiker]

LMAO!!!

[socwkbiker]

<marquee>My wife says you're safe Nico.</marquee>

[Todd]

YOU GUYS ARE KILLIN' ME!!!!

<marquee>LITTLE DOES SHE KNOW!!!</marquee>

The Tripmeister is going to restrict us all to the "lighter side" board!!

[socwkbiker]

<marquee>Sshhh, that our little secret!</marquee>

Thats' for thursday night in Hillcrest! (San Diego inside joke)

[socwkbiker]

That's Friday night on Cedar Springs (don't go there without a butt pad)

[vulcanvixen]

<marquee>Nico? Safe? Now that thar's funny......... http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif</marquee>

BTW Nico......Ram Man's not bad.....but the guy you posted in Biker Hunks..... http://s2.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif

OK......... got the The Walmart ST7317 filter (last one they had) ...... couldn't decide on the oil......... so......... after 45 minutes of looking at all the oils................ ??? ??? ???

I got 1 qt Mobil 1 15w-50 grey cap, 1 qt Rotella synthetic 5w-40 Diesel ...... and 1 qt Castrol GTX 20w-50 High mileage (not energy conserving).... just because ::)

I made Nico's own special blend http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/>

I didn't mess with the screen. 3 qts came out.... 3 qts went in... it's near the top of the sight glass :-*

And guess what??? http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

It runs cooler, it shifts smoother, it idles smoother, it has more acceleration, runs better overall, it's bigger, badder, and meaner, and yes, you guessed it .........................

<marquee> it's way faster than BD's now!!!!</marquee>

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[blowndodge]

I sure hope you didn't mix them because they are not compatible with each other and your burn up your motor in no time!!!!!!!

[vulcanvixen]

I sure hope you didn't mix them because they are not compatible with each other and your burn up your motor in no time!!!!!!!

OUCH!! That's gotta hurt!

Just got back from a ride..... smoke pouring out the back,,, what the f.,..???? Loud knocking from inside engine....... this is not good.... it's all your fault!!!!!!!!! http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/>

Took it apart....... this doesn't look right....

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[blowndodge]

Those pieces look fine! put it back together so we can go riding Sunday! hurry now.....

It's gonna take me a bit.......

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A.P.B., BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR L.A. RIDER ON SLOW NOMAD WITH KNOCKING ENGINE & BLOWN SHOCKS:

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I got my people looking for ya.......... http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

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[socwkbiker]

I bought the Rotella 5/40 gallon size and had to go to Auto Zone and get the bosch 3300 since Wally world was out of the 7317. Problem is, I'm working from the ground and having a bear of a time getting the oil filter off since I...BOUGHT THE WRONG DAMN FILTER WRENCH!!!. Sorry, had to get that moment of stupidity out.

I was surprised... my filter screwed right off by hand.... http://s2.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif

[socwkbiker]

That's cause you got those strong forearms and wrists from that "special exercise". http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[socwkbiker]

After a successful oil change (finally found a filter wrench that worked), the bike got all happy when I took off for the first time. I got up to 70 in a hurry and it's been running great!

"A fairly new player in the synthetic market is Shell with Rotella-T Full Synthetic 5w40. It is not energy-conserving and according to Shell performs competitively with Mobil Delvac One full synthtetic, which means it offers even more protection than does Mobil One 15w50. At least one motorcyclist has reported to me good results so far with his use of the new Synthetic Rotella-T. I haven't tried it yet."

http://vmaxoutlaw.com/tech/motorcycle_oil.htm

"I'm sometimes asked if it's ok to blend your own oils. Yes, it is. Oils are all made out of pretty much the same chemicals, and nothing really bad will happen. If I wanted to blend my own oil, I expect I would use something like 25% Motul 5100 10W-40 and 75% Chevron Delo 15w-40, which would get me both the advantages of a lot of diester stock (5100 is pure diester) and the diesel additive package. In the winter, however, I would use 25% Motul and 75% Rotella synthetic, to get the superior low temperature performance. In fact, I just run Rotella synthetic in everything I own, year round: ST1300, DL650, Superhawk, Chevy Silverado, motorhome."

http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Oils1.html

[blowndodge]

So you didn't trust me on the Rotella huh? Had to ask someone else huh? ok, ok. I get it . I get it. Don't have to beat it into me. Sniff.

Never doubted you BD.... just educating myself further.... realizing we have near zero low temperature starting out here....

Looking more closely at flash point and viscosity index.......


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http://www.syntheticwarehouse.com/Amsoil_20W50_Synthetic_Motorcycle_Oil.htm

??? ::) http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

After I get treatment for OCD..... I will plan my next oil change.

1 qt Marvel Mystery Oil
1 qt Lucas 50wt Plus Racing Oil
1 qt Rotella Synthetic 5w-40

http://www.redlineoil.com/products_motoroil.asp?productID=111&subCategoryID=25&categoryID=11

A pinch of spices for flavor.
1 tsp Coors Light


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.................................................. .................................................. ................. .......................Blowndodge


<marquee>smite me and go to sleep d*mn it...........</marquee>


Put your glasses on old man.







Can't wait for a Nomad riding Shrink to join the Forum.... THEN the fun will begin!

[lw]

After I get treatment for OCD..... I will plan my next oil change.

1 qt Marvel Mystery Oil
1 qt Lucas 50wt Plus Racing Oil
1 qt Rotella Synthetic 5w-40

I have a can of Singer sewing machine oil, is that close enough to substitute for the Marvel Mystery Oil in this recipe? ;)

Send me the specs on the sewing machine oil....... is it 10 or 20wt? :)

[socwkbiker]

BD, cute girlfriend! Where did you meet her?

[socwkbiker]

Seriously though folks, do you recommend changing oil brands frequently or sticking with the same oil?

[blowndodge]

At a motorcycle rally. She never talks back and never says no! I just tell her to hop on, shut up and ride! Nico should have been so lucky!!!! LOL

[socwkbiker]

All us married guys should be so lucky...OOHH, that's gonna get me in trouble. LOL

[dogdoc]

So guys which is BEST for HOT TEXAS weather in a 1600cc?? the Mobil 1 v-Twin motorcycle oil OR the Rotella diesel oil???????????????????????

Doc

I'm not an expert, but you can't go wrong with either one for sure..... if $$ is not even a consideration I'd pick M1 V-twin....... but let's wait and see what our experts say!!! :)

[socwkbiker]

Doc, I just put in Rotella this last weekend. I notice that it runs smoothly and with a little extra get up 'n go. I also notice that when I've been sitting in stop and go frequently, the fan stays on a much shorter time than before, so it's doing a good job. The cost was also decent too.

There's one expert! :)

[socwkbiker]

After all the time I put into it this last weekend, I felt like an expert. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[Top Cat]

Definitely no expert here. I put Rotella-T 5w40 in the Nomad today. Used the wally world filter you guys recommended. Only been about 40 miles so far but bike seems to run smoother, shift better and has a little more power. Of course this could all be in my head and imagination but what the heck as long as I think it did all those things and it makes me feel like it was a job well done, I'm Happy!

TC... I know it must be faster than Blowndodge's now!!

I looked at Walmart and there does not seem to be a Supertech oil filter that replaces the FRAM 6017A which is what my bike calls for. When I put that one and the ST7317 next to each other, the Supertech is longer than the FRAM. Will that matter?

[socwkbiker]

Won't matter at all according to all of the people here using that filter.

Longer doesn't mean better....... http://s2.images.proboards.com/lipsrsealed.gif

Thanks for the reply GH. That sure saves some money.

Glad you siad (spelled said as per GH ) that GH... I would have thought the opposite if you hadn't mentioned it.

<blockquote>Longer doesn't mean better....... </blockquote>


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I am from the Siad......




<marquee>[color=red:4wnqmzfz]L O L </marquee>[/color:4wnqmzfz]

[socwkbiker]

That's not what she said..or siad http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif


<blockquote>Longer doesn't mean better....... </blockquote>


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[socwkbiker]

BD looks kinda like Astro. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

<marquee>That was very mean.... I know people that would take offense to that!!! ;)</marquee>

My dogs!! LOLOLOL

[Todd]

LMAO Nico!!!!!!! Its better now brother, calm down and step away from the automatic weapons.......we got your back....a couple are a a little too close for my comfort level http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

If anyone gets offended on this board..........In the immortal words of Sgt. Hulka - "Lighten up Francis!!!" (lets see who can ID that one)

Now...to the business at hand......I am thinking BD may be Elroy all grown up!!

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[blowndodge]

I think I just sh*t my pants! Yep, I sure did!!!!

[vulcanvixen]

If anyone gets offended on this board..........In the immortal words of Sgt. Hulka - "Lighten up Francis!!!" (lets see who can ID that one)

Stripes! What a great movie! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[dogdoc]

Ok so its Rotella syn oil! Now what weight for TEXAS heat would be best? can you buy it anywhere, i.e. Wal-mart? Cost?? Thanks experts.

Doc

It's syn 5w-40.... Walmart carries it...... it's $16.50 gal in San Diego, CA....

http://www.shell.com/home/content/us-en/shell_for_motorists/motoroils/dir_motor_oils_08042005.html


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[socwkbiker]

I bought mine at Wal-mart.

You're right, BD does look like Elroy.

[dan]

Notable improvement when I changed my oil last week. Right after I changed the oil I mixed up some triple sect and tequilla and found that the bike and the whole world seemed to run just a little better and if the lifter noise was making that obnoxious sound I didn't give a crap.

Dan, you are a silly man. :)


No offense intended to any silly people out there!

Nico

[socwkbiker]

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[socwkbiker]

Dan, did you find that your bike was attracted to ugly bikes that it thought were Nomads after that new mixture?

[dan]

I am afraid you are correct Nico, I don't take to much of anything seriously with the exception of the stock market and that hasn't been funny lately. Socwkbiker! my bike was not affected adversely but I started laying off the Marqaritas when a BMW started looking good to me. You guys seen those saddle bags on a BMW? They look like plummers tool boxes.

[socwkbiker]

If it continues Dan, we will have to have an intervention. lol

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[socwkbiker]

<marquee>I am a KawaNOW GOD!!!</marquee>

[socwkbiker]

Remember Dan,

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[dogdoc]

Thanks Nico(Mr. God) for the info and pic on Rotella. Going to give this oil a try on my next change out. You still using the 3 n1 oil in yours??? :-)

Doc

yw........ yeh I used the mix of the 3...... seems great!

Mobil 1 15w-50 grey cap
Rotella syn 5w-40 Diesel
Castrol HM 20w-50 dyno

I'm considering a straight 40w oil next time...

[blowndodge]

Wow! Nico going straight! that'll be a change!!!!

[blowndodge]

<marquee>I am a KawaNOW GOD!!!</marquee>

yea, a God D*mn Pig! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif


Postit Ho Postit Ho Postit Ho ;) ;) ;)

[socwkbiker]

<marquee>OINK!</marquee>

you damn right I am. Maybe someday we will allow you to join us, what do you say Nico?

[dan]

You know Nico and Socwkbiker there has been an over assumption that the over consumption of alcohol improves the physical esthetics of those less endowed with resplendence. This is not necessarily true. I once drank a half keg in preparation for love making with my (first) wife. We lived in the country then. I looked at her and thought HMMMMMM! I looked at one of our Goats and thought HMMMMMM! I looked at the (x-wife)and thought HMMMM! I looked at the Goat and said HEEEEERRRRRE LITTLE GOAT. But alas it was to my dismay as I fell asleep on one of the goats legs and found out that when the goat woke up it chewed it's leg off because of my lack of resplendence.

[socwkbiker]

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You know Nico and Socwkbiker there has been an over assumption that the over consumption of alcohol improves the physical esthetics of those less endowed with resplendence. This is not necessarily true. I once drank a half keg in preparation for love making with my (first) wife. We lived in the country then. I looked at her and thought HMMMMMM! I looked at one of our Goats and thought HMMMMMM! I looked at the (x-wife)and thought HMMMM! I looked at the Goat and said HEEEEERRRRRE LITTLE GOAT. But alas it was to my dismay as I fell asleep on one of the goats legs and found out that when the goat woke up it chewed it's leg off because of my lack of resplendence.

I am so sorry...... I used to raise goats...

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[Todd]

A good goat will do that!!!!

[socwkbiker]

http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif That's just plain wrong! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

OK......... got the The Walmart ST7317 filter (last one they had) ...... couldn't decide on the oil......... so......... after 45 minutes of looking at all the oils................ ??? ??? ???

I got 1 qt Mobil 1 15w-50 grey cap, 1 qt Rotella synthetic 5w-40 Diesel ...... and 1 qt Castrol GTX 20w-50 High mileage (not energy conserving).... just because ::)

I made Nico's own special blend http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/>

I didn't mess with the screen. 3 qts came out.... 3 qts went in... it's near the top of the sight glass :-*

And guess what??? http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

It runs cooler, it shifts smoother, it idles smoother, it has more acceleration, runs better overall, it's bigger, badder, and meaner, and yes, you guessed it .........................

<marquee> it's way faster than BD's now!!!!</marquee>

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