View Full Version : gas stations and this economy!
borto1990
07-15-2009, 12:36 PM
lets start out by sayin I always start lookin for gas when my yellow light comes on. out runnin some country roads this weekend. yellow light comes on so i start lookin.. first station. closed down.. second closed down.. I'm pushin 170 miles on the trip od at this point. I punch fuel stations into the GPS to find closest gas stations. drive to them and BOTH ARE CLOSED DOWN!!. holy crap. I check more on the gps, this time I called the stations. next one on the list. CLOSED. finally, the next one I called was open. I was creepin up on 200 miles on the OD and shakin the bike to make it there but I made it. I fill an inch past my plate, but it was 5.24 gallons I had to put in her.. sheesh. that was close. Do they make a bottle that will hold say a gallon of gas that's durable, seal able, smell proofable that I can use on longer road trips and pack in the bag?
coacha
07-15-2009, 01:00 PM
there are tons of 1 gallon cans out there you could get. I remember seeing some 32 oz. and 64 oz. containers that were more like bottles but I can't remember who made them.
ice793
07-15-2009, 01:04 PM
This would be a great idea if you remember be sure to let us know.
blowndodge
07-15-2009, 01:09 PM
CJ and I were in a situation riding home from Custer. We were riding through Wyoming and after 100 miles of no gas stations, were weren't even seeing signs of any towns! We were headed southwest out in the middle of absolutely nowhere! He was pulling his trailer so his mileage was lower than mine. After 140 miles still no towns. Finally hit highway 80 and found a station. He took almost 5 gallons. After that I though about how to store a spare gallon safely...If I ever tow a trailer, you can rest assure a spare gallon will be in there!
borto1990
07-15-2009, 01:23 PM
i just found a link to these bottles, got to run to work now but will look into em. ive seen liter sizes so far. here is the link
http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Primus-Fuel-Bottle/PMS0010M.html#reviews
really pretty cheap. fill her up and store during the trip, pour back into tank when you get home.. as long as I find out they can handle regular gas.. for 15 bucks you bet I'll get some..
I usually carry a 1 gal gas can in one of my saddle bags on western trips, because of the closed stations and distance between towns/freeway exits and also because of possible headwinds. A couple times I have hit high winds in Wyoming and South Dakota that knocked my MPG down into the mid- 20's. One time the second bar on the gas gauge winked out at 36 miles. With stations 25-30+ miles apart that sucks the fun right out of the ride without a spare gas can.
dogdoc
07-15-2009, 02:58 PM
Thx borto for the link. ;-)
ringadingh
07-15-2009, 02:58 PM
I would think that a good 1 gallon jerry should be good enough to carry a bit of gas without leaking. It would be handy in unfamiliar areas.
ballast
07-15-2009, 03:09 PM
Found the following on Primus Bottles
United States Department of Agriculture
Forest Service
Aviation Technical Alert
Number 2003-02 Page 1 of 2
Date: July 30, 2003
Subject: Primus Fuel Bottle 1.0
Distribution: USFS Aviation Operations
Issue: The "Primus Fuel Bottle 1.0" with a max filling of 31fl has a design flaw requiring that it be handled with caution. This could be potentially serious in the event of a failure near open flames or in an aircraft.
An Engine Module was hiking into a fire on the Rock Springs BLM District and one of the crewmembers was carrying a few fuel bottles and chain saw into the fire. He heard a pop and wondered what it was. He checked his fuel bottles and the entire top and thread insert was missing. The crew looked around and found the cap and thread insert nearly 10 feet away. There were three bottles taped together with one of the bottles carabinered to his line gear pack by the eyelet of the bottle. The fuel bottle was filled to the max fill line as recommended on the bottle. The bottom of bottle was slightly rounded out from pressure. The fuel bottle showed no other damage.
At this same time last year a Utah crew experienced similar failures of their Primus fuel bottles. A Safety Warning on the failure of these bottles was issued 08/22/2002. MTDC tested the Primus bottles along with several other brands. They found that Primus bottles were prone to failure, especially if overfilled. The MSR fuel bottle proved to be the best bottle tested. In fact it was the only fuel bottle that met the GSA burst pressure (400 psi) requirement for fuel bottles.
MTDC emphasizes the importance of filling any of these bottles only to the recommended fill line. Questions may be forwarded to:
Wesley Throop
Missoula Technology and Development Center
E-mail: wthroop@fs.fed.us
Phone: (406) 329-3957
Fax: (406) 829-6746
Page 2 of 2
Recommendation:
1. When transporting fuel bottles in aircraft we recommend that they be purged of fuel if at all possible.
2. If fuel is being transported internally in fuel bottles they must be double-checked for compliance with the manufacturer’s directions for filling and security of the cap assembly.
3. Firefighters must comply with the Interagency Aviation Transport of Hazardous Materials Guide.
4. Avoid securing Primus bottles by tying through the cap handle.
5. Recommend that over the long term Primus bottles be removed from use and replaced with a more acceptable model.
/s/ Ron Hanks - National Aviation Safety and Training Manager
/s/ Pat Norbury – Acting National Aviation Operations Officer
misunderstood
07-15-2009, 03:12 PM
Audiogurus setup is the cats meow !!
ballast
07-15-2009, 03:13 PM
Check these out for small square gallon containers.
http://www.rotopax.com/
They look like they would fit in the hard bag and have room for a whole lot more
Yellow Jacket
07-15-2009, 03:23 PM
Here's a possibility:
http://www.nospill.com/index.php
Grainger has them - Click here (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/productIndex.shtml?from=Search&newSrch=yes&operator=keywordSearch&search_type=keyword&action=Go!&QueryString=no-spill&submit.x=34&submit.y=15)
jonsamson
07-15-2009, 09:00 PM
i just found a link to these bottles, got to run to work now but will look into em. ive seen liter sizes so far. here is the link
http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Primus-Fuel-Bottle/PMS0010M.html#reviews
really pretty cheap. fill her up and store during the trip, pour back into tank when you get home.. as long as I find out they can handle regular gas.. for 15 bucks you bet I'll get some..
They sell them at Academy, Dicks outdoors and Bass Pro Shops in the camping hicking area. Used for backpacking to carry liquid fuel for you cooking etc. You can even buy some cup holders, attache the cup holders to your crash bars, bag bars etc and carry them on the outside. I would love the see the look in the poor fools face that steals one for a cold drink of water and gets a mouth full of petro.
Jon
Check these out for small square gallon containers.
http://www.rotopax.com/
They look like they would fit in the hard bag and have room for a whole lot more
You could mount that on a luggage rack between the backrest and the luggage possibly too. It looks pretty thin.
AlabamaNomadRider
07-16-2009, 02:23 AM
Just be sure and leave some space for expansion. I usually keep some rags or other things in one of my saddle bags. I would wrap any container pretty good that will protect the container and the saddle bag. Here in Alabama don't have a problem finding a station. I remember from when I was in Kansas back in the early and mid eighties some stations were starting to close. Heck, I had a Texaco card and found out that every Texaco station in Kansas had closed. Just my luck.
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