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billmac
06-24-2009, 12:02 AM
Whenever you ask a question, you a likely to show your ignorance. However, after hundreds of posts, I figure I have already repeatedly shown my ignorance. So hear it goes.

Any Nomad riders considered installing seat springs?

I have been reading threads about spending over a grand for a new seat in search of more comfort. That is a serious expense and the rider is still sitting on a steel frame with a few inches of foam.

I was wondering why we could not add 2 or 3" springs under the seat. I realize that added height would affect the entire handling of the bike. However I think I would be willing to raise my seat about an inch or two with me on it, to get a softer ride. Heck the aftermarket seat might do that anyway.

Think about your car seat and how it is made. Even my Allis Chalmers tractor has a spring seat. My friend swears his Harley Crossbones with the spring seat is more comfortable than his Harley Ultra Classic.

Doesn't it make sense to try something to keep the seat hard rubber pads from just sitting on the metal frame?

OK remember its late, I am old, (and cheap), so don't be too tough on me.

strobe
06-24-2009, 12:26 AM
Can't comment on if it would help or not to be honest. For me the issue is the pressure points in most seats place too much pressure right on the tail bone. The Russell, while expensive, distributes the weight so there is no focused pressure point. I think at the end of the day the issue for me is less about the ride of the seat / suspension, but more the actual design of that few inches of foam and the shape of the seat.

But as I have learned over the last many years is that every rider is different and what helped me get some comfort, may not have the same results for the next rider.

ponch
06-24-2009, 07:43 AM
Tail bone and Ischium, and then there is monkey butt. Neither the stock seat, nor the mustang solve those problems. 1000 bucks? too much...but you can pay less than that. I don't need a back rest, and may be not leather.


Can't comment on if it would help or not to be honest. For me the issue is the pressure points in most seats place too much pressure right on the tail bone. The Russell, while expensive, distributes the weight so there is no focused pressure point. I think at the end of the day the issue for me is less about the ride of the seat / suspension, but more the actual design of that few inches of foam and the shape of the seat.

But as I have learned over the last many years is that every rider is different and what helped me get some comfort, may not have the same results for the next rider.

ringadingh
06-24-2009, 07:52 AM
I think if it was possible to build a seat as you describe it would put the seat up higher on the bike, on a foam seat you sink into it for the absorbtion, on a spring seat they are usually quite thin in comparison, and are usually used more as the bikes suspension as well, such as on hardtail bikes. Im not sure if it would work, but if somebody tries it we'll all know.

tazfl
06-24-2009, 07:58 AM
Whenever you ask a question, you a likely to show your ignorance. However, after hundreds of posts, I figure I have already repeatedly shown my ignorance. So hear it goes.

Any Nomad riders considered installing seat springs?

I have been reading threads about spending over a grand for a new seat in search of more comfort. That is a serious expense and the rider is still sitting on a steel frame with a few inches of foam.

I was wondering why we could not add 2 or 3" springs under the seat. I realize that added height would affect the entire handling of the bike. However I think I would be willing to raise my seat about an inch or two with me on it, to get a softer ride. Heck the aftermarket seat might do that anyway.

Think about your car seat and how it is made. Even my Allis Chalmers tractor has a spring seat. My friend swears his Harley Crossbones with the spring seat is more comfortable than his Harley Ultra Classic.

Doesn't it make sense to try something to keep the seat hard rubber pads from just sitting on the metal frame?

OK remember its late, I am old, (and cheap), so don't be too tough on me.

I don't think it is so much a suspension issue as it is just the fact that the seat shape creates pressure points that cause discomfort. I'm not sure if having the springs under the seat would help with this or not. I do know that I've always liked the "old school" look of the spring seats but I'm not crazy about the way it feels when your sitting on the bike. they tend to make you feel like your sitting "over / on top of" the bike instead of "in" the bike.
I think it would look good on the Nomad, however if someone did this they would definitly have to make a cover to go over the area under the seat to protect the electronics from rain and such.

dantama
06-24-2009, 04:47 PM
I think the Harley Cross Bones seat is a good looking seat and is shaped just right. It ought to be a good seat for long rides. I photo shopped a Cross bones seat onto my Nomad just to see if it was at all possible. I think the verdict is that it wouldn't work.