View Full Version : Finally order Phat II Risers!!!
samkjr
05-23-2009, 11:30 AM
I finally got around to ordering risers. I kept putting them off thinking I'm tall/big enough I dont need them, but then there were so many tall folk on the site that still say how great they are.
I have done a search and was not able to come up with anything. Does anyone have detailed install directions and better yet, with pictures. I know the Scootworks site has seemingly good directions posted. However, I have found that most companies make it seem like you take a bolt off, and just put the new one on.
Or if you can find a link that works too. I ordered them today and figure I'll put them on next saturday.
Jared
05-23-2009, 12:11 PM
It's pretty simple.
Pop of the chrome caps off the stock risers and use an allen wrench to remove the top clamps. Set a towel on your tank and speedo housing. Carefully rest your handle bars on the tank Or if you've removed the windshield, you could rest them on the light.
Turn you tire to the rights and remove the nut on the bottom left side of the triple tree. With the nut removed, the riser should be free to pull straight up and out.
Do the same thing with the other riser.
When you get to this point, I think it will be straight forward how to mount the new risers.
Good luck! I'm jealous! I would love some risers but can't afford them at the moment.
scott2007nomad
05-23-2009, 02:21 PM
I had the same experience. I'm 6'5" and thought I didn't need them but I sure like mine.
The instructions that came with them is all I used.
I had to open the headlight buck to loosen some cables and I used the offset holes on the riser.
Most important cover the tank and get help holding the bars.
It's also a good tool opportunity to get allen wrenche sockets.
cactusjack
05-23-2009, 03:12 PM
After you've installed the risers and it's time to mount the bars, tighten the front cap bolt to 25 ft lbs, then tighten the rear cap bolt on each riser to 25 ft lbs. If you do it right, there will be a gap between the cap and the riser at the rear (closest to rider). Don't try to tighten them so the cap is even. They are done this way to prevent the bars from slipping on you on the riser.
samkjr
05-23-2009, 06:33 PM
It's also a good tool opportunity to get allen wrenche sockets.
Great comments from all. Maybe it really is as easy as their directions would have me believe.
I enjoy any oppertunity to buy new tools. That's why I have so many now. "Oh, I need it jsut once for this one specific need? Forgedabbowdit. I'll just buy the whole set."
Top Cat
05-24-2009, 05:06 PM
After you've installed the risers and it's time to mount the bars, tighten the front cap bolt to 25 ft lbs, then tighten the rear cap bolt on each riser to 25 ft lbs. If you do it right, there will be a gap between the cap and the riser at the rear (closest to rider). Don't try to tighten them so the cap is even. They are done this way to prevent the bars from slipping on you on the riser.
I didn't know that. I tightened mine even on both sides. No slippage yet.
samkjr
05-28-2009, 07:13 AM
YAYYY!! They came in the mail last night. Now I just need to find free time saturday morning for the install. I was really suprised by how heavy and substantial they were.
barrynfla
05-28-2009, 10:45 AM
YAYYY!! They came in the mail last night. Now I just need to find free time saturday morning for the install. I was really suprised by how heavy and substantial they were.
They make great weapons! lol
The install is really easy. Everybody gave you excellent advice. You'll need a deep 17mm (I think!) socket to get the riser bolts off from the bottom of the top triple tree. If you have a cheap socket with a thin wall it'll fit better. The rest is pretty straightforward. CJ is correct about the bolts.
You can do it!!
Barry
mikey911s
05-29-2009, 10:34 PM
Any hints on finding extra length in the brake line of a 2004 1500? I've only got my windshield off so far tonight, but i don't think I can make the brake stretch. I'm going to remove the small clip on the handlebar and I heard somewhere that you can move the brake/mirror bracket down the handlebar and get about 3/4 ". I don't want to re-rout if I don't have to. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
mike
glwilson
05-29-2009, 10:51 PM
Any hints on finding extra length in the brake line of a 2004 1500? I've only got my windshield off so far tonight, but i don't think I can make the brake stretch. I'm going to remove the small clip on the handlebar and I heard somewhere that you can move the brake/mirror bracket down the handlebar and get about 3/4 ". I don't want to re-rout if I don't have to. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
mike
I did my '04 1500 and the lines were tight. I loosened the brake and clutch units (don't know what else to all them) and moved them forward on the bars about 3/4 inch -- that helped provide some tension release -- basically enough.
Other than removing the clips in addition, as you mentioned, that is about all that can be done. If that is not enough "tension release", then you will need to buy longer cables -- to which Scootworks sells cable extensions for that purpose.
Personally, I did not want to have to use the cable extensions -- so I made-do with the tension I have -- which is a bit more than I would prefer, but not enough to cause problems, even when the fork is turned to full lock in either direction.
The main problem with the tension I have is only when you are removing the bars from the Phatrisers. The tension doesn't give you any extra room to move the bars to work on them.
markusmaximus
05-30-2009, 07:16 AM
One other thing to consider. Most people use the off-set mounting hole so the riser clears the speedo housing. I used the center hole on my 05 and the rise juuuuust clears the speedo housing on full turn.
Enjoy your Phats!
eagleman
07-24-2009, 08:56 PM
Did you find you had to move the tank back to the farthest position? I remember reading somewhere that someone used the center holes but had loosened the tank and slid it back as far as they could. Did you have to do that?
Eagleman
dogdoc
07-24-2009, 09:34 PM
I agree with the master T.C. I received mine and followed the directions, pretty easy install. I didnt own a torque wrench at that time so i tightened them suckers up left-right-left untill reall tight. Thats was 3 yrs ago and NO problems. So much for needa torque wrench.
cantridenuf
07-24-2009, 09:58 PM
I didn't move my tank back. My risers just barely touch the speedometer nacelle at full lock but that doesn't seem to hurt anything. These bikes vary somewhat in the way they were assembled though, so it could be a problem for you or not.
The main drawback in using the center holes IMO is that I can't turn on the ignition without straightening my handlebars somewhat. The risers touch the top end of the keyswitch. I am considering switching to the offset holes mainly for this reason.
I would add this suggestion to the others: have someone help you do the install just to help stabilize the bike and make sure the handlebars don't slip and damage your tank.
Good luck. You will love your risers.
atmooney
07-25-2009, 05:48 AM
What size risers did you get samkjr? Or anyone else for that matter?
cantridenuf
07-25-2009, 09:42 AM
Atmooney, they are Phat II risers, you can read all about them here.
http://www.scootworks.com/shop.cgi/page=partskawhandle.htm/SID=PUT_SID_HERE
samkjr
07-25-2009, 01:34 PM
Sorry Guys. I didn't know my old post resurfaced. Yes I did use the offset holes. I went through all the trouble of trying to pull the tank and nacell backwards and make more room. I am pretty sure nothing budged at all. I dont think it is a nessecary step, other than other fellas saying they were a lot of tolerences in how theses were put together.
I ordered the Phatt II Risers which are 4 inchers.
In fact when I wrecked my bike they were bent up. I am replacing them with the same exact thing. I am ordering tonight.
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